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Post by @whirlwind_LLC on Jan 13, 2018 2:24:13 GMT -8
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Post by @whirlwind_LLC on Feb 2, 2018 20:29:42 GMT -8
So who's watching right now? What do you like? Dislike?
I'm a fan of Miz' IC title run, and will be ecstatic for the day he tops Don Muraco's number of days as champ! This guy can do no wrong, I think.
"Drake Maverick" as 205live GM? We like this or nah? DM the GM...
Shinsuke Nakamura wins the Rumble to give the smarks their dream match, can it headline? No way Vince puts it on after Brock/Roman right?
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Post by John on Feb 14, 2018 3:09:19 GMT -8
I thought RAW this week was meh at best. But... I love Woken Matt Hardy and I am so liking Elias right now. I did not like him in NXT at all but man, he is awesome. I hope they run with it, give him a title run, reward him a bit and not job him out like how they always do with guys like him.
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Post by Leon Tyrell on Feb 14, 2018 6:27:36 GMT -8
Miz basically owns the IC Title at this point and I'm fine. I would like to see him eventually return to the main event picture - given how shoddy his first run with the WWE Title was and, let's be honest - he wasn't ready for it, I think he could do wonders as the top heel for a few months. He's smarmy, he can bump safely, a strong worker and he can talk. Miz the ideal transitional Champ if they wanted to jump the belt between two faces without having them fight - IE Roman and Seth.
Spud adds some much needed charisma to the show. I'm not up on last night's episode, so I can't comment on if we will continue to see PowerPoint Drew, but he's basically the only character on the show. I like him, I like the direction the show is heading in - two long matches per night, let the guys really work their butts off. I've said it before, but I genuinely like 205 Live. The show in my area for the live tour got shitcanned probably due to low sales, I hope it doesn't convince WWE to stop running NXT/205 in Rhode Island.
Roman/Brock is the main event, unless they do something outrageous like Cena/Taker. They haven't built to AJ/Nak so far really and Smack remains the Shane, Kevin, and Sami Show. Perhaps WWE is intentionally not building this match too much because they plan to stick it in the middle of the card.
Meh. I want more shit on his YouTube channel. Silly laughing man doesn't jive with me - I hope we get a Matt/Bray team out of this with Bray doing a sort of "Brother Nero" type deal (just not Sister Abigail, please...) while Jeff gets a singles push upon his return. I think a Jeff/Miz feud could be lovely.
I have certified Elias as /my guy/ and I W.W.E. every night. This is how you slowly build up a NXT talent without immediately burying him. Elias has slowly risen up the card, he hasn't squandered in the mid card with no direction, and has had high profile matches with the likes of Balor, the Shield, and Cena. He's nothing special in the ring, but he's more than serviceable (ie, he's basically Roman level).
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Post by @whirlwind_LLC on Feb 14, 2018 21:26:48 GMT -8
I can't believe it, but I too Walk With Elias. Geez, it took years of straight tuning out whenever he was up on NXT, now I earnestly look forward to his next segments. Makes you wonder if that would have been Jeff Jarrett if Jeff could actually draw. He even had a bright spot in an otherwise dull RAW, but of course Braun with the BIG guitar didn't hurt that. I sit here just two days removed from it and.....shoot, I don't even completely remember all of what I saw tbh.
And don't get me started on the lack of depth in SmackDown LIVE right now.
I'm optimistic for 205, I wasn't sure how I'd feel about the more "indy" feel of it and less of the personalities, but right now I am a fan. Drake Maverick is good too. hopefully some stories kick up more after this cruiserweight title thing wraps up, because right now it feels like its "good matches just for the sake of good matches", which is only good, I think, for the short term. Give me more of Nese/Gulak, I am loving that!
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Post by Leon Tyrell on Feb 15, 2018 8:40:13 GMT -8
Having just watched the other night's show I agree. Gabbagulak vs. Tony Abs was choice. I'm pulling for Punished Drew to win the whole thing. Imagine the hype if he goes over Andrews, over Mustafa (whom I peg to beat Jack and Murphy), and finally going over Cedric at Mania. Won't happen - Cedric is going the distance and it'll culminate with him finally getting the belt, but a man can dream. Put the strap on Punished Drew - A man denied his Drewtopia.
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Post by StevieC on Feb 15, 2018 9:05:32 GMT -8
My brother got behind Elias solely because he just randomly appeared in he background of backstage segments strumming his guitar. I like him myself. Admittedly that could be because Corey Grave doesn't like him.
I don't get Braun or why everyone does. I don't like or get why WWE need FOUR in the company with UFC gimmicks. I thought Broken/Woken was stupid in TNA and I think it's even more stupid in WWE.
I also think there are people in WWE that should be doing a lot better than they are. That said if you ask them on Social Media about it they basically at they get a lot of money.
One thing I really like is NXT. They don't waste time with dumb gimmicks and stupid ideas. Down in NXT you just get some wrestling (or as close to it as WWE will go)
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Post by @whirlwind_LLC on Feb 15, 2018 9:24:58 GMT -8
My brother got behind Elias solely because he just randomly appeared in he background of backstage segments strumming his guitar. I like him myself. Admittedly that could be because Corey Grave doesn't like him. I don't get Braun or why everyone does. I don't like or get why WWE need FOUR in the company with UFC gimmicks. I thought Broken/Woken was stupid in TNA and I think it's even more stupid in WWE. I also think there are people in WWE that should be doing a lot better than they are. That said if you ask them on Social Media about it they basically at they get a lot of money. One thing I really like is NXT. They don't waste time with dumb gimmicks and stupid ideas. Down in NXT you just get some wrestling (or as close to it as WWE will go) Braun creates chaos. Destruction. The masses like seeing what he will do next. It helps that he's madd some choice lines like "I'm not finished with you!" and had some phenomenal return sequences like the trash truck. Ultimately though I think it's because he's reliable. He says he's going to do something, and he does just that.
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Post by Leon Tyrell on Feb 15, 2018 9:26:24 GMT -8
Gimmicks are the best part about wrestling. Not occupation-based gimmicks like Sparky Plug or Repo Man, but not people who are "themselves tuned up to 10" either. I can respect Undisputed ERA for being good in-ring workers and having great tag fundamentals, but their lack of any personality makes me not give a shit about them. Yelling "BAYBAY" is not charisma. Gimmicks are why I'm high on a man like The Velveteen Dream. Clark is a great worker for being so absurdly young, and is probably the most entertaining character in NXT - partly because he is among the only characters in NXT.
This takes me to your point about Braun. He has a good look and an intimidating voice, but most importantly he's a walking caricature of himself. The way he slides effortlessly between being a stoic bad-ass monster who can man-handle Brock, to being Wile E. Coyote, flipping over semi trucks with the power of chocolate cake is something you don't see in modern wrestling anymore. He's fun to watch. It's why I don't like Kane anymore. He's not a character, he's not a larger-than-life personality. He's an old Libertarian mayoral candidate in a red mask.
I don't want good wrestlers who don't make me interested in then - this is partly why 205 Live failed, and is the reason I'm such a big fan of a guy with personality like Drew Gulak. Give me less Adam Coles, Mustafa Alis, and Drew Galloways. Give me more Dreams, more Goldusts, most Cudgel Cousins. Wrestling is at it's best when you couple solid in-ring fundamentals with larger-than-life characters. I like a technical bout, who doesn't? But I would rather watch Harper and Rowan kill jobbers and Uso rap battles than watch Dunne and Bate put on another phenomenal match.
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Post by Leon Tyrell on Feb 16, 2018 7:06:45 GMT -8
So what will the rest of the EC card look like? Thus far we only have the three announced matches: both ECs and Asuka/Nia.
My guess: Bray Wyatt vs. BrWoken Matt
Sheamus and Cesaro vs. The Revival vs. The Club vs. Titus WORLD.. WIIIIIDE
Some sort of 205Live tag/six-man tag match for the preshow.
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Post by John on Feb 16, 2018 13:24:01 GMT -8
Gimmicks are the best part about wrestling. Not occupation-based gimmicks like Sparky Plug or Repo Man, but not people who are "themselves tuned up to 10" either. I can respect Undisputed ERA for being good in-ring workers and having great tag fundamentals, but their lack of any personality makes me not give a shit about them. Yelling "BAYBAY" is not charisma. Gimmicks are why I'm high on a man like The Velveteen Dream. Clark is a great worker for being so absurdly young, and is probably the most entertaining character in NXT - partly because he is among the only characters in NXT. This takes me to your point about Braun. He has a good look and an intimidating voice, but most importantly he's a walking caricature of himself. The way he slides effortlessly between being a stoic bad-ass monster who can man-handle Brock, to being Wile E. Coyote, flipping over semi trucks with the power of chocolate cake is something you don't see in modern wrestling anymore. He's fun to watch. It's why I don't like Kane anymore. He's not a character, he's not a larger-than-life personality. He's an old Libertarian mayoral candidate in a red mask. I don't want good wrestlers who don't make me interested in then - this is partly why 205 Live failed, and is the reason I'm such a big fan of a guy with personality like Drew Gulak. Give me less Adam Coles, Mustafa Alis, and Drew Galloways. Give me more Dreams, more Goldusts, most Cudgel Cousins. Wrestling is at it's best when you couple solid in-ring fundamentals with larger-than-life characters. I like a technical bout, who doesn't? But I would rather watch Harper and Rowan kill jobbers and Uso rap battles than watch Dunne and Bate put on another phenomenal match. I am warming up to the Dream. When he debut'd I wanted nothing to do with him, but he is winning me over. A. He's a good promo B. He's way better in the ring than several guys who have been in NXT longer than him. I just hope his character transfer to the main roster. I fear he'll end up like Tyler Breeze which is sad. And I wouldn't say he's the only character in NXT. No Way Jose A. Black Pirate Chick who won MYC. Ember Moon They are all characters, not as much over the top as Dream but their not Bayzler who can not fucking wrestle. I wish she would go away. I two, have been watching 205Live since Drake Maverick took over. (Still hate the name, but oh well, he has single handily done more than Enzo in that I find time to watch 205Live so there is that. Well done sir.) I like that they are using Dunne (I love him, I don't care what you say.) Bates, HI, Strong and now Murphy (Where is Blake?) to spice up the roster and letting them go nuts for 20-25 minutes. 2 matches format is nice, no gay ass 6/8/10 men tag matches that is just nonsense. I don't know where they go when they crown a champ. I would not be disappionted if Cedric won it, Gulak would also be nice, and personally, I would mark the fuck out if Dunne won. Again, I love that guy. We've covered Braun (Who is awesome), Elias and Mat Hardy, and I enjoy these little Woken bits. Makes me smile. I wish they would speed up the story with Bray but whatever. So I was thinking the other day while watching NXT. Could Aliester Black replace, or more likely be that dark character on the main roster who could be the modern day Undertaker? There is going to be a void if Taker is gone. They have several guys trying to fill that void of a dark character but none of them seem to close to Taker in that every guy is like, "FUCK YEAH! TAKER IS AWESOME!" The women want to get themselves a piece of the dead man and the kiddies are like "He scares me, but I like him. Daddy can I have a taker shirt?" I kinda feel, Black can check all of those boxes. Top notch matches, believable character, believable promos and the kiddies can get into him cuz he's not too evil and what not. (Ala Kane)
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Post by StevieC on Feb 18, 2018 5:56:02 GMT -8
I'd rather they didn't try to make Aleister Black the 'Next Undertaker'. That 'gimmick' fails miserably. The called Lex Luger "The next Hulk Hogan" they called Jeff Hardy "The Next Shawn Michaels" both of those ended badly.
Roman Reigns as the "Next Diesel" hasn't been bad. That said nobody has actually called him it yet. Other than me
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Post by Leon Tyrell on Feb 20, 2018 6:06:53 GMT -8
Dunne isn't in the Cruiserweight Title Tournament. He did just have a good defense against Roddy at NXT though. Right now the folks left in the CWTT are Cedric/TJP, Kalisto/Roddy, Andrews/Gulak, and Ali/Jack and Buddy/Divari. I expect Ali and Murphy to advance tonight.
I don't think a kid would look at Black and think "man that guy is cool," not saying he isn't mind you. I could also be out of touch, as I a twenty-eight. I should ask my ten year old nephew if Aleister Black is "cool." Regardless, I want to see Black join the main roster as a solo guy who doesn't say anything for the longest time. At some point the Ascension start coming out with him to the ring, not so much because Black asked them to, but because they're fanboy posers. Then after a few months of this one day they help Black win a big match and he knocks the shit out of them both with Black Mass and just says, "I didn't ask for your help." Would be the GOAT debut promo.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2018 10:38:25 GMT -8
Gimmicks are the best part about wrestling. Not occupation-based gimmicks like Sparky Plug or Repo Man, but not people who are "themselves tuned up to 10" either. I can respect Undisputed ERA for being good in-ring workers and having great tag fundamentals, but their lack of any personality makes me not give a shit about them. Yelling "BAYBAY" is not charisma. Gimmicks are why I'm high on a man like The Velveteen Dream. Clark is a great worker for being so absurdly young, and is probably the most entertaining character in NXT - partly because he is among the only characters in NXT. This takes me to your point about Braun. He has a good look and an intimidating voice, but most importantly he's a walking caricature of himself. The way he slides effortlessly between being a stoic bad-ass monster who can man-handle Brock, to being Wile E. Coyote, flipping over semi trucks with the power of chocolate cake is something you don't see in modern wrestling anymore. He's fun to watch. It's why I don't like Kane anymore. He's not a character, he's not a larger-than-life personality. He's an old Libertarian mayoral candidate in a red mask. I don't want good wrestlers who don't make me interested in then - this is partly why 205 Live failed, and is the reason I'm such a big fan of a guy with personality like Drew Gulak. Give me less Adam Coles, Mustafa Alis, and Drew Galloways. Give me more Dreams, more Goldusts, most Cudgel Cousins. Wrestling is at it's best when you couple solid in-ring fundamentals with larger-than-life characters. I like a technical bout, who doesn't? But I would rather watch Harper and Rowan kill jobbers and Uso rap battles than watch Dunne and Bate put on another phenomenal match. Gimmicks can really go either way. For a character like The Velveteen Dream it's obvious from the get-go, but that gimmick only works because the guy doing it is really, really good. If he couldn't knock out both really good promos and great matches he'd be dead in the water with that gimmick, and as it is only time will tell if it can get over on the main roster. Look at a guy like Tyler Breeze, same idea, he's really good but he's just started gaining traction on the main roster and every time he starts getting anywhere, they cut him down again. For a guy like Adam Cole, give him time. There's a reason why they brought him in just the way he is. Sure a character is great to get fan reaction right away, but for guy like Cole there's a build where you get to know him and that charisma emerges. Take your guy Drew Gulak for instance. Once he was lost in the sea of average guys that are the sea of 205 Live, but once he was there a while he was able to build and develop and come up with something that works and now he's emerging as one of those guys that are stand outs on 205 Live. You're probably in the minority though of people that would rather see Harper and Rowan kill jobbers than see Dunne and Bate put on a phenomenal match. Those two in the ring together are just what pro-wrestling is all about. And all the rap battles and jobber killings don't mean anything if they don't culminate in something worth while. By the same token I do get that those great matches aren't nearly as great without knowing the characters involved. That's what sets professional wrestling apart from everything else you have to have the character component AND the match component. That's why the best (Undertaker, Shawn Michaels, Ric Flair) could do both. If a guy can have great matches I'll probably like him because that's the base this whole thing is built on, and if he's a good character I might find him amusing, but the ability to do both is what draws people in and keeps them watching.
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Post by Leon Tyrell on Feb 23, 2018 12:02:07 GMT -8
To be fair, Drew is basically just doing his old CZW gimmick.
I don't just want to see Harper and Rowan kill the entire Chikara roster - you are right there needs to be payoff. I do appreciate a good match for a good match, but it's like you said. There needs to be substance, I need a combination of a great character and storyteller, as well as somebody who gets it done in the ring. I was falling asleep at first for the Almas/Gargano match because I had no interest in the story. Sure it woke me up, but you shouldn't have to "wake me up." Something I hear people complain about are fans at shows only look up from their phones for spots and the finish. That's a problem that reflects on boring characters and disinteresting story, as well as below standard in-ring work.
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Post by Leon Tyrell on Mar 7, 2018 9:38:46 GMT -8
Today I learned that not only are Akem and Rezar not in any way related, but they aren't even the same nationality.
How the fuck is it possible to find two huge identical dudes like that?
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Post by Leon Tyrell on Mar 23, 2018 7:36:09 GMT -8
Has there ever been a more apparent Janetty (and so quickly) as Tucker Knight? Angelo Dawkins comes to mind, but we know Angelo Dawkins has always sucked.
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Post by Leon Tyrell on Apr 10, 2018 16:08:29 GMT -8
Paige is the Smack! GM
It's like Vince doesn't want me to watch on Tuesdays.
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Post by @whirlwind_LLC on Apr 10, 2018 19:10:49 GMT -8
Oh yeah you don't like Paige....forgot about that lol.
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Post by John on Apr 11, 2018 2:20:50 GMT -8
But Smackdown is now Iconic.....
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Post by Leon Tyrell on Apr 11, 2018 4:46:48 GMT -8
Oh yeah you don't like Paige....forgot about that lol. She's awful to listen to and look at. However, we are /Iconic/ now and honestly the show was pretty based last night. As long as we don't get fucked in the SSU again I could be a great show again. Heel Nak is on point, Rusev remains over, Usos crushing it and will likely stay on Tuesdays since they have to face the Bludgeons at the GRR. The only thing I'd have changed was pushing the Iconic debut and cash in to next week just show Corbin's failed cash-in and Carmella's successful one would be in Providence. This is a major reason I thought she was cashing in or that Charlotte was winning. They've been advertising AJ / Nakamura (probably a dark match) and Charlotte vs. Carmella for the women's title for weeks.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2018 14:48:05 GMT -8
I'm watching NXT Takeover New Orleans right now for the 4th time. It so outclasses and outshines Raw and Smackdown.
Overall I have to say that I was pleasantly surprised with Wrestlemania. Ronda did way better than I thought she would. Shinsuke turning heel was a smart call I believe, it was at least a shock.
Raw on Monday was pretty good. If you ignore the Universal title and pretend it doesn't exist then it makes for a much better show. Lol.
I was just a little disappointed in last night's Smackdown. I feel like they rushed Daniel Bryan/AJ and should have had a long build up before their first WWE match....but then that probably means that Bryan will be going to Raw in the shakeup. I was hoping for Johnny Wrestling to show up too. Hopefully that happens on the shakeup as well.
Ready for tonight's NXT. I want to see the fallout with Almas/Black, what's going to happen between Dunne/Strong, and where Gargano and Ciampa go from Takeover.
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Post by John on Apr 11, 2018 16:59:33 GMT -8
Ready for tonight's NXT. I want to see the fallout with Almas/Black, what's going to happen between Dunne/Strong, and where Gargano and Ciampa go from Takeover.[/i][/font][/quote] Youll have to wait to next week, maybe the week after for that
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Post by Leon Tyrell on Apr 12, 2018 5:01:29 GMT -8
Ready for tonight's NXT. I want to see the fallout with Almas/Black, what's going to happen between Dunne/Strong, and where Gargano and Ciampa go from Takeover.[/i][/font][/quote] Youll have to wait to next week, maybe the week after for that[/quote] Yeah the NXT after a TakeOver is also a retrospective of the event and maybe a dark match from said event. For some reason Liv Morgan accidentally leaked the NXT script for the next set of tapings. Some highlights: -Velveteen Dream and Ricochet are feuding -Candace takes on Zelina, looks like the final confrontation with her and La Sombra going out on their asses. Call up imminent. -Dain/Lars blowoff in a no DQ match -War Machine has two matches - redubbed War Raiders (probably don't want to be sued by Disney) -Dunne/Strong have a match; setting up ERA vs. Dunne/Lorcan/Burch -EC3 singles debut -Gargano / Black - Ciampa is involved in some way -Ciampa has the obligatory long match with gatekeeper Ohno -Black's next feud looks like it might be against Young and/or SAnitY, call-up unlikely [/span]I'm sure by now if you wanted you can also find the full results as the taping was last night.
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Post by John on Apr 12, 2018 12:12:33 GMT -8
{Spoiler}-Velveteen Dream and Ricochet are feuding
This is promising....
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Post by Leon Tyrell on Apr 12, 2018 12:16:29 GMT -8
For sure.
I'm most intrigued with Undisputed ERA's next feud. I wonder why we're getting them instead of Mustache Mountain.
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Post by @whirlwind_LLC on Apr 12, 2018 14:21:50 GMT -8
For sure. I'm most intrigued with Undisputed ERA's next feud. I wonder why we're getting them instead of Mustache Mountain. Injury, I presume.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2018 15:52:11 GMT -8
Ordered my Johnny Wrestling t-shirt a few days ago. My wife has all of a sudden become a big Ronda Rousy fan, so she had me order her a shirt too. I may have to talk her into getting one of those plaid skirts too (wink wink). Lol.
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Post by Leon Tyrell on Apr 13, 2018 4:53:22 GMT -8
I still don't know what -_O means
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Post by Leon Tyrell on Apr 17, 2018 12:24:02 GMT -8
AJ successfully defends the WWE Title against Balor and Miz at back-to-back PPVs. AJ loses the WWE Title to Nakamura at SummerSlam. Nakamura wins the rematch and dashes Bryan's dreams at No Mercy. Finn Balor defeats Nakamura at Survivor Series to become WWE Champion. The Miz defeats Balor at the Royal Rumble. Daniel Bryan emerges victorious at the namesake event. The Miz vs. Daniel Bryan at WrestleMania 35 for the WWE Title; Brie, Birdie, Maryse, and Monroe all at ringside.
Book it better. Protip: You can't.
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