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Post by Leon Tyrell on May 2, 2018 5:06:17 GMT -8
Another meh episode of Smack. It's like they forget it's two hours but want to do as many in-ring segments as RAW. Shinsuke "Ball-crusher" Nakamura continues to hit it out of the park.
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Post by @whirlwind_LLC on May 2, 2018 5:39:31 GMT -8
Idk man, I actually enjoyed smackdown. Shinsuke's love of balls is getting a bit old, but it's still great.
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Post by John on May 2, 2018 12:23:22 GMT -8
Joe's love of balls never get old. In fact, his new wrestling idol is Nak. Is a thought i had. In a promo it shall go.
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Post by Leon Tyrell on May 3, 2018 5:32:58 GMT -8
Random thoughts/observations
-Big Cass taking a shoot brainbuster from Bobbo for sandbagging the vertical suplex -WWE gonna try to turn Rusev proper heel by getting rid of Rusev Day -I noticed that the NXT audience, particularly Fullsail, has never been right about anyone. Everyone who was over in NXT and not pre-established (ie Joe) has failed miserably; anyone they have hated has been successful. -BAYBAY Man is definitely getting kicked out of the UE at some point and Roddy will take over -Zenith and Samael have the potential to be the most entertaining team in the WWE
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Post by @whirlwind_LLC on May 3, 2018 6:27:09 GMT -8
Oh, Full Sail is awful. Kevin Owems said it best;
You people make me sick. You people are the John Cena of wrestling fans.
Full Sail are the worst kind of smarks lol.
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Post by @whirlwind_LLC on May 3, 2018 14:11:36 GMT -8
Good heel is good.
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Post by John on May 4, 2018 6:26:04 GMT -8
Random thoughts/observations -I noticed that the NXT audience, particularly Fullsail, has never been right about anyone. Everyone who was over in NXT and not pre-established (ie Joe) has failed miserably; anyone they have hated has been successful. I would agree with that for the men. Becky/Banks/Flair were pretty popular and they have done well on the main roster. Bliss as well. It's like they get someone on the main roster and they have no clue what to do with them. Some random thoughts.... - Not a fan of the "War Raiders" name. - I don't remember Kona Reeves from before since this is his return to NXT. Kinda wish he would leave again TBH. - Bring back CJ Parker if you're going to give us a retread on NXT. - I want Lars Sullivan and Braun Strowman to form a tag team and just destroy everyone. - This just in, TM61 is still a stupid name, and even after turning heel, they still suck.
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Post by @whirlwind_LLC on May 4, 2018 7:41:50 GMT -8
We all need more Montez Ford on screen. And fire Angelo Dawkins, he's never gonna be good.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2018 9:43:49 GMT -8
I currently have two guys that I really hope succeed, IC or US champs or at least get good storylines on the main roster.
1. Johnny Wrestling - Probably my favorite wrestler overall right now. He's not a spot guy, but he can definitely tell a story in the ring. His stuff with Ciampa has been amazing. In fact Ciampa is making Gargano a huge success. So I would even say Ciampa is another favorite I'd like to see do well.
2. Ricochet - I know that it feels like jumping on the bandwagon here, but his acrobatics in the ring make him special. Hopefully he'll build a character style personality (nothing over the top) during his stay in NXT.
With all that being said, I don't want either of these guys to be rushed out of NXT. I enjoy watching them now. My biggest gripe is that NXT is only one hour.
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Post by Leon Tyrell on May 4, 2018 10:35:34 GMT -8
He's a great underdog face character; basically he's Roderick Strong a decade ago. Ciampa is doing well as a heel because the crowd is willing to play along and boo him. It's this really weird thing they have going on; normally a smarky crowd would cheer for a heel like Ciampa, but they are boing him instead and it's helping the story a ton. It sounds really fucking ass-backward, but that's just where we are. I think it's a testiment to how over Johnny is as a face, but the question is can you keep that up and can you move it over to the main roster?
He's a meme. I mean he's good at what he does, but he's a meme.
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Post by Leon Tyrell on May 15, 2018 5:31:02 GMT -8
What an absolutely horrendous RAW. How have they managed to fuck up this show so hard so fast?
-Braun in pointless tag team matches not doing anything losing all his heat -Completely killed Bobbo, getting booed. -Tag Division is meandering shit with no screen time despite big teams like the Deleters, Authors of Pain, and Revival being on the roster -Seth is a terrible fucking face but at least he does good matches -Roman Reigns in general
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Post by @whirlwind_LLC on May 15, 2018 5:58:41 GMT -8
The roster is bloated and over crowded. Coupled with a willingness to only push select names, of course this wasn't going to end well.
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Post by Leon Tyrell on May 15, 2018 6:32:32 GMT -8
Saw this posted elsewhere, made me laugh.
"WWE should just pretend that Roman Reigns is Stone Cold. Not even like metaphorically by booking him the same way. Shave his head, give him Austin's music and put him in some black underwear. Use a sound board to play Austin's promos and just have Reigns lip synch them. Don't even acknowledge that he ever used to be Roman Reigns or that the real Austin exists. He'd get over like the dark side of the moon."
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Post by @whirlwind_LLC on May 15, 2018 6:49:49 GMT -8
You know.....that's just so goofy enough and these fans today are smarky enough that I'd just might work.
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Post by John on May 15, 2018 12:24:13 GMT -8
RAW is coming to town next week, first time in....2 years(?) we're getting one of the TV shows. We do get a Live show every 6 months it feels, NXT has made it here 3 times now, I went to the first one, which happened to be their first round of live shows outside of Full Sail but I haven't been back. (I'm not sitting in the Armory in the middle of summer, no AC is that place. Plus the tix went up, and no Nax. at the time) Anyways.
Not going. I haven't looked up the tix but I have a feeling their 80 plus, plus I have to take the following day off from work. But other than 3, 4 people on the roster, I have no desire to sit through 3 plus hours of raw. And Parking in Albany sucks. They jacked up the price at the garage too. 30 bucks now. $110 ish bucks before I get something to drink, t shirt, etc. Oh and tolls for me. Another 6 bucks both ways.
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Post by @whirlwind_LLC on May 15, 2018 13:58:13 GMT -8
RAW is coming to town next week, first time in....2 years(?) we're getting one of the TV shows. We do get a Live show every 6 months it feels, NXT has made it here 3 times now, I went to the first one, which happened to be their first round of live shows outside of Full Sail but I haven't been back. (I'm not sitting in the Armory in the middle of summer, no AC is that place. Plus the tix went up, and no Nax. at the time) Anyways. Not going. I haven't looked up the tix but I have a feeling their 80 plus, plus I have to take the following day off from work. But other than 3, 4 people on the roster, I have no desire to sit through 3 plus hours of raw. And Parking in Albany sucks. They jacked up the price at the garage too. 30 bucks now. $110 ish bucks before I get something to drink, t shirt, etc. Oh and tolls for me. Another 6 bucks both ways. That's about right for RAW, you might check StubHub as the date draws closer for any second chance seats/pre-boughts that someone had to give up though. I did that for the last RAW live event here and got 3rd row for $30.
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Post by Leon Tyrell on May 16, 2018 5:23:11 GMT -8
They come around Providence every six or so months, usually alternating RAW/Smack and Live Events. We'll get like SmackDown > RAW Live event > RAW > SmackDown Live event > RAW > SmackDown Live event > SmackDown > RAW Live Event, etc. NXT comes through every few months but they don't go to Providence, instead it's usually where the University of Rhode Island plays basketball in a different town, smaller venue.
I would go, even though barring Bryan turning on Bray a few years ago the Providence crowd is notoriously shitty, but I basically don't have anyone to go with and I'm not buying a ticket for my wife for her to be bored the whole time. I try to win tickets though, they always comp a bunch on the station I listen to. Never any luck.
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2018 16:55:53 GMT -8
I've been wanting to go to a live show lately. NXT was about an hour and a half away from here. I'd planned to go, but then like a week later Nakamura went to Smackdown so I didn't care anymore. Right now if there was a show with Johnny Gargano and Ricochet on the card, I'd definitely be there.
WWE Live (both brands I guess?) is coming to my town in June. I doubt I will go.
Last live show I went to was Wrestlemania 27. It wasn't the greatest card, but the experience of WM was awesome. Biggest highlight was that (we didn't know at the time) I got to see Edge's last match. He was my favorite at the time.
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Post by @whirlwind_LLC on May 17, 2018 18:39:17 GMT -8
I've been wanting to go to a live show lately. NXT was about an hour and a half away from here. I'd planned to go, but then like a week later Nakamura went to Smackdown so I didn't care anymore. Right now if there was a show with Johnny Gargano and Ricochet on the card, I'd definitely be there. WWE Live (both brands I guess?) is coming to my town in June. I doubt I will go. Last live show I went to was Wrestlemania 27. It wasn't the greatest card, but the experience of WM was awesome. Biggest highlight was that (we didn't know at the time) I got to see Edge's last match. He was my favorite at the time. Typically live events are better quality than TV, in a decision that makes absolutely no sense to me (lol, why put your best foot forward when you can't drive TV ratings with it?) but there is always a top title match, sans RAW live events because of Brock's ridiculous PPA rate. If you can find a ticket at a good price, I'd say it's worth going. I'm jelly you got to see the one WrestleMania where The Miz headlined the show, and went over Cena for the WWE Title! I saw the year before that though, so HBK's last match, so I guess I really can't be too jelly. But, still, lol, I want all the wrestling.
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Post by Leon Tyrell on May 18, 2018 4:54:09 GMT -8
Just caught up on NXT. Why is Tomasso Ciampa being so mean to Johnny Gargano's mom?
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Post by John on May 24, 2018 16:43:58 GMT -8
Kinda glad i didnt go to raw. That was a rough show to watch.
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Post by Leon Tyrell on May 25, 2018 5:17:35 GMT -8
You near Worcester my guy?
Never mind that was SmackDown. RAW seemed better than last week at least. Just barely.
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Post by @whirlwind_LLC on May 25, 2018 13:23:20 GMT -8
Kinda glad i didnt go to raw. That was a rough show to watch. I have never cringed so much at anything Sami Zayn did like I did with his portrayal of Lashley's sisters in drag.
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Post by Leon Tyrell on May 29, 2018 5:46:37 GMT -8
Kinda glad i didnt go to raw. That was a rough show to watch. I have never cringed so much at anything Sami Zayn did like I did with his portrayal of Lashley's sisters in drag. It was Old Day levels of bad. This entire Sami/Bobbo feud is hot garbage and is damaging both guys. Can't believe I'm saying it but they just need to put Kami back together,
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Post by @whirlwind_LLC on May 29, 2018 19:47:54 GMT -8
I have never cringed so much at anything Sami Zayn did like I did with his portrayal of Lashley's sisters in drag. It was Old Day levels of bad. This entire Sami/Bobbo feud is hot garbage and is damaging both guys. Can't believe I'm saying it but they just need to put Kami back together, They should just separate Zayn from Kevin, and turn him face again where he shines most IMO. Then take Lashley and forget this nonsense and just let him be the Brock Lesnar that shows up every week...y'know, what iMPACT! did to make this guy so awesome. Because that clearly worked and made people care. Seriously. You have a guy once dubbed #WalkingArmageddon. How are we failing to monetize something that should be so easy?
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Post by Leon Tyrell on May 30, 2018 4:57:02 GMT -8
It was Old Day levels of bad. This entire Sami/Bobbo feud is hot garbage and is damaging both guys. Can't believe I'm saying it but they just need to put Kami back together, They should just separate Zayn from Kevin, and turn him face again where he shines most IMO. Then take Lashley and forget this nonsense and just let him be the Brock Lesnar that shows up every week...y'know, what iMPACT! did to make this guy so awesome. Because that clearly worked and made people care. Seriously. You have a guy once dubbed #WalkingArmageddon. How are we failing to monetize something that should be so easy? Sami should get kayfabe fired and return as El Generico, where he turns face and fights to earn his job back.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2018 12:55:33 GMT -8
It was Old Day levels of bad. This entire Sami/Bobbo feud is hot garbage and is damaging both guys. Can't believe I'm saying it but they just need to put Kami back together, They should just separate Zayn from Kevin, and turn him face again where he shines most IMO. Then take Lashley and forget this nonsense and just let him be the Brock Lesnar that shows up every week...y'know, what iMPACT! did to make this guy so awesome. Because that clearly worked and made people care. Seriously. You have a guy once dubbed #WalkingArmageddon. How are we failing to monetize something that should be so easy? Zayn was suffering as a face. Im not gonns disagree that this feud is awful, but turning him face again won't do him any favours.
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Post by Leon Tyrell on May 31, 2018 5:18:16 GMT -8
They should just separate Zayn from Kevin, and turn him face again where he shines most IMO. Then take Lashley and forget this nonsense and just let him be the Brock Lesnar that shows up every week...y'know, what iMPACT! did to make this guy so awesome. Because that clearly worked and made people care. Seriously. You have a guy once dubbed #WalkingArmageddon. How are we failing to monetize something that should be so easy? Zayn was suffering as a face. Im not gonns disagree that this feud is awful, but turning him face again won't do him any favours. Because of shitty booking mostly. His feud with Jericho was okay, then he was Braun's personal jobber, didn't do anything unless he was losing, got drafted, continued to do nothing and then feuded with Mike "I worked WWE into paying for my rehab" Bennett.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2018 7:44:55 GMT -8
^True.
But that shitty booking will continue lol
Especially on RAW.
Considering cancelling WWEN and getting GWN at this point tbh
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Post by @whirlwind_LLC on May 31, 2018 14:33:39 GMT -8
^True. But that shitty booking will continue lol Especially on RAW. Considering cancelling WWEN and getting GWN at this point tbh I wholeheartedly support and encourage anyone to become a GWN subscriber.
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